Saves, not "safes"!!!

This is probably the last post on modifying S&W saving throws (here is the first and second entry on the subject).

Below is my proposition of two new save progressions. On the side there is the % chance of succeeding depending on the bonus from the ability linked to the save.

Save progression #1

Level	Save	Chance, no mod	Chance + 1	Chance +2
1	16	25%	30%	35%
2	15	30%	35%	40%
3	14	35%	40%	45%
4	13	40%	45%	50%
5	12	45%	50%	55%
6	11	50%	55%	60%
7	10	55%	60%	65%
8	9	60%	65%	70%
9	8	65%	70%	75%
10	7	70%	75%	80%
11+	6	75%	80%	85%

Save progression #2

Level	Save	Chance, no mod	Chance + 1	Chance +2
1	17	20%	25%	30%
2	16	25%	30%	35%
3	15	30%	35%	40%
4	14	35%	40%	45%
5	13	40%	45%	50%
6	12	45%	50%	55%
7	11	50%	55%	60%
8	10	55%	60%	65%
9	9	60%	65%	70%
10	8	65%	70%	75%
11+	7	70%	75%	80%

So as you see, the base save values are now a bit lower compared to the original ones, but thanks to the addition of the ability modifiers there is more variety.

The idea is to give each class one save throw based on progression #1 and two based on progression #2.

Let us see how it would look in the case of a level 2 cleric, with stats:

16 WIS (+2 mod)
11 DEX (no mod)
13 CON (+1 mod)

His "main" saving throw is Will:

Fortitude Save: 16 (+1 on the roll from CON)
Reflex Save: 16
Will Save: 15 (+2 on the roll from WIS)

He's chances for a successful saving throw would be: Fort: 30%, Ref: 25%, Will: 40%.

Additionally the original rules state that the cleric class has a special +2 bonus on saving throws against poison and paralyze (which would here belong to Fort save).

If you compare the saving throws of that 2 level cleric with the original save table for clerics, you will see, that altho his "secondary" saves are lower than they would be according to the original rules, his "primary" one is much higher.


The bottom line is , that even though I'm not completely convinced by my save house rules, they do seem to bring a bit more variety into the game. I'll try to go with them for now...

If you see a good reason why this post sucks, please inform me. I will greatly appreciate any input!